Apostasy vs Loss of Salvation

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When you talked to osas-believers about apostasy, they always give you answer that we can not loss of our salvation.

Yes, salvation can not be lost! never! nor an any external force can taken away or steal or rob our salvation!

Giving that standard programmed answer “we cannot loss our salvation”, we can tell that they only see one side of the coin. They only talk about external force to take away our salvation, which can not ever possible.

It’s like talking to Russelites about Jesus’ Divinity:

me: Jesus is The Lord God Almighty!
Russelites: here i show you a hundred verses that prove Jesus was human
me: yes i know Jesus was human
Russelites: ok that settle it, we are correct about it
me: the topic is not whether Jesus was human, the topic is whether Jesus is God Almighty!

They failed to see the other side of the coin: abide!

The topic is NOT whether we can loss our salvation. We can never loss our salvation! That settle it once and for all!

The topic is whether we need to abide or can we choose to stop believing in saving-faith and still get saved?

We are commanded to abide!

2John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Abide is NOT works! Abide is stay in the faith we are saved.

Apostate is choose to stop believing in the saving-faith. Like some Galatians persuaded to believe in salvation by works. And Paul rebuke them that if they leave the saved-by-grace faith and believe in saved-by-works faith, they are apostate!

And, there are tons and tons of warning if we do not abide and chose to apostate!

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Apostasy: Fallen from Grace

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Galatians 1:
1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Galatians were truely saved churches of God and justified by faith only.

Galatians 3:
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

But, if they do not abide, stand fast in saving faith, then they are fallen from grace.

Galatians 5
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

 

Apostasy: The Evil Servant

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Luke 12
42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;
46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

Matthew 24
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

  • there are three kinds of people here:
    • wise servant
    • evil servant
    • the hypocrites, unbelievers, drunken
  • the hypocrites / unbelievers are not servants.
  • thus, both wise and evil servants are believers! both are servants!
  • the evil servant is the apostate because he/she choose not to abide.

 

Apostasy: The Due Debt

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The forgiven debt!

Matthew 18
23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.
25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
32 … I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

All our sin is debt and Christ has already paid the price and purchase us! (1 Corinthians 6:20, 7:23)
So, all debt is already paid, we only need to desire of God’s abundant mercy and grace to accept the forgiveness by faith only.

1Peter 1
18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Apostate

The debt is forgiven only as long as we are in true saving faith, abide and never leave.

Matthew 18
28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

So, after we are forgiven or our sins, we need to abide in faith.
Faith is NOT works! Eph 2:8-9; Rom 3:27-28, 9:32; Gal 2:16, 3:6-12
Abide in faith is NOT works!
As long as we continue to abide, we are covered by His blood.
When we leave our faith (actively leave, not taken away), the we are not covered and all debt remains our own, to be paid by ourselves.
And no one can paid such debt, no price but Jesus’ precious blood can paid it all!

Apostasy: the sin unto death

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1 John 5
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

  • two kind of sin: sin not unto death and sin unto death
  • if our brother sin not unto death, we pray for him
  • if it is sin unto death, apostate, we do not need pray anymore

Apostasy: Paul choose not to be a castaway

1 Corinthians 9
23 And this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

  • Paul do everything he could to be partaker with the Corinthians
  • keep running, stay in the race, run for the eternal prize
  • strive for the mastery for we shall obtain incorruptible crown
  • Paul strive for the mastery
  • to stay in the race, don’t be a castaway

Apostasy: Worse than the Lost Reprobate

2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

  • 20a. first, they escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord, they are saved by The Saviour
  • 20b. then, they are again entangled therein
  • 20c. they are worse than before they are saved!
  • 21a. it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness
  • 21b. because they turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them